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Looking for pointers (please)

Postby powbmps » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:48 pm

My question concerns pole plants and hands. The turns feel pretty good, but watching my POV, I seem to be planting on the wrong side of the moguls. WTF?

Sorry, but I can't seem to embed the video.

http://vimeo.com/58504949
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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby Jeffy » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:11 pm

Yup. You are planting on the front side of the bump which causes busy and wide/high hands and can also put you into the back seat. Its a timing thing... You are reaching out, planting and then skiing around your pole. Instead wait, make the turn and then pole plant. This will help move your pole plants to the top or better yet backside of the mogul. Not only does this quiet your hands but it also seems to happen slower allowing you to ski faster.
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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby bendtheski » Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:13 pm

Looking back on clips for No Sleep Till K-town 1-7, and some more recent footy, it looks like the majority of skiers (whom I consider above average bump skiers) are at least planting on the tops of the bumps. Very few are planting on the backs, but that's something to strive for anyway.

It looks like you've got a similar ailment to mine; left hand has some extra motion to the outside after every pole plant. Probably need to reach a bit more with the left, and nuke that extra movement, in my case fore and aft, as well as side to side.

From this year:



From a decade ago:



OTOH, I'm getting to be too old to care to much about perfect pole plants, and am just thankful to have most of my body parts in working order. YMMV.
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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby powbmps » Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:17 am

Thanks for the replies guys.
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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby bradpevans » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:53 pm

Watch the side view of Deneen around 5:15 to 5:30. barely touching the backsides
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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby bradpevans » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:53 pm

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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby powbmps » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:12 am

bradpevans wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxvICSiNELw


Thanks brad. There is some great slow mo footage in there.
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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby jack97 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:12 pm

here's something from Deneen

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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby bendtheski » Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:15 pm

^on those flat turns it looks like Deneen is planting near his tip with his right, and closer to his boot with his left. Or am I just seeing things?
Wanna know the secret to soft hands? Here's mine:

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Old School probably remembers these ads.

Deneen, pretty much nails it though, noisey hands are usually an indicator of some bigger problem; late on turns, bad balance, poles too long, or any number of other bad habits.

Video is a great tool for picking up on these minor flaws and magnifying them. Then you can work on cleaning them up.
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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby jack97 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:46 am

bendtheski wrote:^on those flat turns it looks like Deneen is planting near his tip with his right, and closer to his boot with his left. Or am I just seeing things?

Video is a great tool for picking up on these minor flaws and magnifying them. Then you can work on cleaning them up.


No imag... I see that too. But he makes it work.

Speaking of vid, here's one of the fins...I think its Janne. Could be my imag as well or the angle it was taken. Hand turns slight sideway (aka passing out tickets) when he releases the pole. Slo mo of the vid is great, the guy in effng fantanstic.

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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby powbmps » Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:54 am

Thanks guys.

Finally got out again yesterday to try out some of the tips. Worked on relaxing my grip and waiting to plant. At least I felt faster :lol: .

https://vimeo.com/60443235

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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby bvibert » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:38 pm

powbmps wrote:Thanks guys.

Finally got out again yesterday to try out some of the tips. Worked on relaxing my grip and waiting to plant. At least I felt faster :lol: .

https://vimeo.com/60443235

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The end is the best part.. ;)

I was thinking of this thread as I was skiing some bumps yesterday. It made me realize that my pole plants are never consistently on the same part of the bump. Guess I have another thing to work on...
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Re: Looking for pointers (please)

Postby powbmps » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:02 pm

[quote="bvibertThe end is the best part.. ;)[/quote]

High and tight :P .
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